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Weight Issues

Category: Caravanning
27 Mar 2018
Written by Andy Hits: 341

So last time I shared the specs of the weights of the caravan.  Weight and caravans is an important thing.  Caravan organisations recommend keeping the caravan as less than 85% of the tow car's weight. Otherwise you are more likely to have the caravan cause control or stability issues to the tow car.

3 weights are given. Mass in running order (MRO) which is the weight of the caravan, without anything extra. Basically what you would expect it to weigh when towing it from the showroom on the day you bought it.
Payload is the amount you are allowed to load into the van before it is considered overloaded.
Maximum Technically Permitted Laden Mass (MTPLM) is how heavy you are allowed to make the caravan by adding things to it.  It is the sum of its MIRO with user payload.

So with these numbers in mind, and using the 85% guideline, an ideal weight for a tow car would be around about 1700kg.

And this is the next thing that made life potentially difficult. Driving licenses.

Hannah and I both passed our tests after the changes in 1997, which then no longer automatically gave people in UK the license to drive 17 seater minibuses, 7.5T trucks or a car and trailer that have a combined "train weight" (that is the sum of car and caravan weights) of over 3.5T. 

According to the government:

Licences issued from 1 January 1997

If you passed your car driving test on or after 1 January 1997 you can:

  • drive a car or van up to 3,500kg maximum authorised mass (MAM) towing a trailer of up to 750kg MAM
  • tow a trailer over 750kg MAM as long as the combined MAM of the trailer and towing vehicle is no more than 3,500kg

Here comes the next number. MAM.  That is the maximum weight that a vehicle can weigh.  The same as the MTPLM of the caravan.  But here is the snag. It isn't what the car / caravan combination currently weigh, but what the maximum the could weigh.

Long story short, Hannah and I both had to go and take a car + trailer (B + E) test.

We used a driving schools car, as our tow car is an auto, and the other catch that there is with licenses is with a normal B license, if you take a B + E test in an auto, you are only allowed to tow a train weigh of over 3.5 T in an auto!

Our caravan

Category: Caravanning
22 Feb 2018
Written by Andy Hits: 421

So here are details of our caravan.

Its layout is described as a single axle, centre washroom, rear island bed.

In english, it means, only 1 pair of wheels, and rather than having beds that have to be made up by re-arranging the back-rest of seats and such like, at the rear, is a nearly full sized double bed.  Between that bedroom and the front of the van is a bathroom with shower and toilet.

The diagram in the brochure was this:

Swift Lifestyle 4 EB

We initially thought we liked the idea of a rear washroom with a transverse island bed, that is the "master bedroom" as such connecting to the main living area, and the washroom being right at the back of the caravan.
The bed isn't so long, but often can be extended.  In the caravans we looked at (mostly on paper, but we did take a trip to the caravan and motorhome show at NEC, Birmingham) we quickly came to the conclusion that it was less than ideal for a few reasons

  1. Bed length.  I am under 6ft tall, but as the beds have curved ends, my feet were nearly over the end
  2. Bathroom location. We wanted to be future proof, as we hoped (and have) started a family.  With the bed in night mode, the gap at the end, especially with a duvet on the end is small. Children squeezing past would be problematic
  3. Bedroom separation.  We have 2 dogs, and the partition between bedroom and lounge is just a (heavy duty) curtain. It was easy to see the dogs trying to push under it or something like that

We actually changed our mind while at the caravan shop, and although the exact model we decided to get wasn't in stock, similar ones from Swift were, making it an easier decision


Category: Caravanning
08 Feb 2018
Written by Andy Hits: 901

CaravanningYes, I have become one of those most hated by Top Gear aficionados.  A caravanner!  Last February, before the big show in Birmingham, and negotiated a deal on a dealer special

Eventually in July, our 'van had been built and arrived. A Swift Lifestyle 4EB, based on the Sprite Major 4EB

Swift Caravan

Our Route to caravanning

Category: Caravanning
15 Feb 2018
Written by Andy Hits: 394

So why caravanning? We all know how frustrating it is being stuck behind an HGV or someone towing.

Hannah and I first tasted some of the freedom of the mobile lifestyle when we borrowed her parents motorhome.  Its a lovely vehicle, and is under 3.5T maximum laden weight, so no extra driving tests for LGV.

But borrowing wasn't ideal, as we would have to make 2 hour drive down to them, before we then could unload our car, load our dogs in and then get on our way.  And the same was true at the end of a holiday too. Not insurmountable, but we wanted some freedom for ourselves.

In January 2017 we embarked on our biggest adventure yet.  We flew to the North Island for 2 weeks of holiday in a motorhome.

I could talk for a long time about that trip, but I'll try and summarise with a few photos:

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